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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Other Words for 'Said' Reply with quote

Stumbled Upon this webpage and wanted to share it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I beg anyone who looks at this list to please, oh please, look up the actual definitions of these words before using them as something shiny and new and to use them appropriately. The last thing we need is a new tiers for lips epidemic. Synonyms are pretty and all, but even as Stephen King once said: "Any word you have to look for in the thesaurus is the wrong word. Always. No exceptions." Or something to that effect.

Otherwise, that link is awesome, Xen. Thank you for sharing! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might have to keep that in mind. Thanks. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ehzoterik wrote:
I beg anyone who looks at this list to please, oh please, look up the actual definitions of these words before using them as something shiny and new and to use them appropriately. The last thing we need is a new tiers for lips epidemic. Synonyms are pretty and all, but even as Stephen King once said: "Any word you have to look for in the thesaurus is the wrong word. Always. No exceptions." Or something to that effect.

Otherwise, that link is awesome, Xen. Thank you for sharing! Very Happy


LOL! Tiers! That one always makes me go Shocked ! I spend 5 minutes asking myself " what the heck are they licking???"

Tiers and Orbs really get me. Big time.... And when I first started RP "orbs" was my word, I thought it made me a big timer in RP to use such a word. lol.

I know some people who can use these types of words and it sounds beautiful, but generally I've found I can do without them XD.

I've seen some play the last few nights that made me go kooky trying to figure out what was being done/said because every word is a descriptive word and body parts are something else entirely, like trees instead of legs or something.

If you can use the word great, other wise, at least read up on it before using it. lol

But, this is a good list nonetheless. And sorry for my rant! >.<
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm not a writer , we all know that by now what i am though is a reader ( something every good writer needs )

i for one will read what ever you take the time , pour your heart & soul into and decide i should read if it means 13 different ways to say the word " said " so be it , i'll read it if it means i have to look it up in the dictionary , so be it , i have one useage is eveident by looking at the smudge marks on the pages

i know not everyone feels like i do i just wanted to let those of you who do use 13 different ways to say the word "said " dont worry , ill read your stuff

be well & enjoy the rest of the day
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Choice of language is a choice of style, is it not?

Writers, in my opinion, should use the words that they feel best evokes the feeling and atmosphere they want to create.

Some people really, REALLY, enjoy flowery prose....others less so.

Anyway, use the words that you want to use and write in a way that you enjoy. you have to first please yourself...if you can't do that, odds are you won't please anyone.

And to add my own twist to what Seeker said, people will read your work if they like it. If they like it, than your word choice is fine for both them and you. If they don't like your word choice, then they don't "get" your vision. If that bothers you, work on shaping your creative output to meet YOUR goals, not anyone else's goals. After all, you can't please all the people all the time. And if you don't care if some people don't read your work, then carry on.


Whatever words you choose to you, I personally believe you should know as many words as possible so that you have a large number to choose from.

Great link, Xeno.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kairee wrote:
Choice of language is a choice of style, is it not?

Writers, in my opinion, should use the words that they feel best evokes the feeling and atmosphere they want to create.


Ehzoterik wrote:
I beg anyone who looks at this list to please, oh please, look up the actual definitions of these words before using them as something shiny and new and to use them appropriately.


Ditto, and Ditto!

I'm thinking, though, that Stephen King was a little off in his statement. There's nothing wrong with using a thesaurus. There's something wrong with using the wrong word for the wrong description of what you're trying to get across. Plus, if you can't say it fluidly, then it probably isn't being read comfortably. Some words just don't flow together as well as others. Perhaps that's a writing style? Or maybe just my own mental blockage. Rolling Eyes

I hate stumbling over a mouthful of words in my brain. It makes my thoughts sputter! Laughing

Does anyone else do that?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My opinion is this: If some writers didn't use big or unusual words, how would we learn new words? Problem is as was pointed out already - sometimes the word used is not exactly what should have been used. It's always important to double check a word - even if it's a word that you are relatively certain is being used correctly.

It's true that I've had to look up words sometimes while playing in chat. We all probably have had to do that at one time or another. I figure it's a growth process, right?

My frustration is when I am spending more time looking up words than I am writing or reading. Abstract descriptions get me sometimes too. Sometimes, to save my own limited sanity, I have to start ignoring things in favor of posts I can understand. Yet, back to the growth process, even that can be a learning experience.

I have to admit that it is amusing sometimes when I do look up an unfamiliar word and it just doesn't seem to apply to the sentence it was used in. There are two very plausible explanations: 1) I didn't get the definition correctly or 2) the writer mistakenly used the word inappropriately.

We've all done it. The key is trying to avoid it. Smile

And there are words I refuse to use because I just still don't get the finer nuances of what they mean. LOL!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like big words.

That having been said, if you have to read something that I've written more than once to understand what I'm trying to say, then I'm doing something wrong.

So I tend to write a lot more simply than I used to, once upon a time. The problem that I run into with that, though, is that there's not enough nuance available for people to judge, say, the emotional content of something I've just had my character say.

There has to be a balance, I guess.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ali al Amat wrote:
I like big words.

That having been said, if you have to read something that I've written more than once to understand what I'm trying to say, then I'm doing something wrong.

So I tend to write a lot more simply than I used to, once upon a time. The problem that I run into with that, though, is that there's not enough nuance available for people to judge, say, the emotional content of something I've just had my character say.

There has to be a balance, I guess.


I've watched you play and never said anything before but I've enjoyed every moment. Smile

Sometimes an exotic word for something common adds depth to the character it comes from.

I agree that balance is important.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scorpio wrote:
I have to admit that it is amusing sometimes when I do look up an unfamiliar word and it just doesn't seem to apply to the sentence it was used in. There are two very plausible explanations: 1) I didn't get the definition correctly or 2) the writer mistakenly used the word inappropriately.


Yeah, there are some people who clearly don't have a grasp on their words, usually followed by seriously poor grammer. They just haven't learned enough yet. It is a learning process... an ever evolving process.

Ali al Amat wrote:
That having been said, if you have to read something that I've written more than once to understand what I'm trying to say, then I'm doing something wrong.


Not necessarily unless your goal is to get them to get the whole thing right off the first read.

I've noticed, and sometimes do this myself, that the writer is cleverly using the word/s meaning so that as a story unfolds, and the characters become more defined, the meaning becomes clearer. I have seen this in some player's styles. I think it's a creative element not just in writing style, but in the way the player plays, leading the reader through the development of the story and the characters. It is something I think is largely unnoticed with some... kinda gets lost somewhere. It's something you really have to pause and think about.

Well, maybe that's just me. But it is something that I enjoy about playing with text based elements. It ads an element to be discovered not just about the characters or story, but about the writer themselves. I always re-read something twice before I post to it. I guess I like to think. I think it's fun! Cool

So just when you think the word is being used inappropriately, it might just be a play on the meaning that you just might not fully get until later.

And then it's hard for a writer to do this play in chat. I see it far more on board writing then in chats. Amazing how simplified most writing gets when in Chat vs how they write/play on a board. I simplify my chat play. I suppose that's a different topic, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I notice that I write in one style, carefully thinking about what image or emotion ought to be depicted. When I am playing my character, rapid fire typing, I spit out the strangest word combinations.

I love to look up new words and try to understand the shades of their meaning. In the thesaurus of my brain, it all gets jumbled into a new brew.

As different characters use their own varied vocabularies, so will the action words when they speak and move take on a distinctive character of their own.

Words are a writer's paintbox.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elmore Leonard's entry in Ten Rules for Writing Fiction advocates the opposite position of my original post.

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3 Never use a verb other than "said" to carry dialogue. The line of dialogue belongs to the character; the verb is the writer sticking his nose in. But "said" is far less intrusive than "grumbled", "gasped", "cautioned", "lied". I once noticed Mary McCarthy ending a line of dialogue with "she asseverated" and had to stop reading and go to the dictionary.

4 Never use an adverb to modify the verb "said" . . . he admonished gravely. To use an adverb this way (or almost any way) is a mortal sin. The writer is now exposing himself in earnest, using a word that distracts and can interrupt the rhythm of the exchange. I have a character in one of my books tell how she used to write historical romances "full of rape and adverbs".

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Other Words for 'Said' Reply with quote

Xenograg wrote:
Stumbled Upon this webpage and wanted to share it.

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Please don't feed the flowery prose. Crying or Very sad
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